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Ethiomonarchist

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White smoke is rising from the chimney of the Sistine Chapel.  World awaits the appearance of the new pope.
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That was fast... two days.
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Praying that it's Cardinal Burke, and he picks the name Pius XVIII
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Excited and anxious all at the same time!
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Ladies and gentlemen, we have our new Pope- (former) Archbishop of Buenos Aires Jorge Mario Bergoglio, Pope Francis I. I was hoping the new Pope would assume a more traditional name, like Innocent or Pius, but apart from that I can't say I'm disappointed. Based on his Wikipedia page- I admit that I had never heard of him before tonight- he sounds like a good man for the position. Crucially, he distanced himself from Liberation Theology early in his career, and "prefers to emphasize spirituality and holiness" rather than articulating positions on matters of politics and economics. He has publically challenged free market economics, opposes abortion and euthanasia, and has affirmed church teaching on homosexuality though he teaches the importance of respecting individuals who are homosexual.


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As expected, all the "favorites" who went into the conclave have come out again as cardinals.  Francis I is a first in many ways.  Obviously he is the first Pope named Francis, he is the first non-European Pope, the first Latin American Pope, and the first Jesuit Pope.  Pope Francis is the son of a railroad worker, and has only one lung due to the other having been removed due to an infection when he was a teen.  He has a chemistry degree.  It is being reported that he came in second to Benedict XVI during the last conclave.  It's truly a historic election. May God guide Pope Francis I through the coming years.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/13/cardinals-elect-new-pope/

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/13/17290508-pope-francis-i-argentinas-cardinal-jorge-mario-bergoglio-is-new-catholic-leader?lite

http://gma.yahoo.com/white-smoke-over-sistine-chapel-means-new-pope-elected-180953008.html

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Ethiopia stretches her hands unto God (Quote from Psalm 68 which served as the Imperial Motto of the Ethiopian Empire)

"God and history shall remember your judgment." (Quote from Emperor Haile Selassie I's speech to the League of Nations to plead for assistance against the Italian Invasion, 1936.)
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Pope Francis I has become the first Pope in history to place a phone call to his predicessor.  He called Benedict XVI at Castel Gandolfo shortly after he was elected.
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Ethiopia stretches her hands unto God (Quote from Psalm 68 which served as the Imperial Motto of the Ethiopian Empire)

"God and history shall remember your judgment." (Quote from Emperor Haile Selassie I's speech to the League of Nations to plead for assistance against the Italian Invasion, 1936.)
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Seeing his character, it seems we will not be getting a coronation?  Nevertheless I wish him good luck with his new job.
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His Installation Mass will take place on March 19th.  Vice President Joseph Biden will lead the U.S. delegation.

More about the new pope.  He dislikes the ornate trappings of the church, and values simplicity (yeah not much chance of a revived coronation).  He prefered to travel by bus while cardinal archbishop of Buenos Aires. He accused fellow church leaders of hypocrisy and forgetting that Jesus Christ bathed lepers and ate with prostitutes.  He clashed vigorously with President Cristina Fernandez de Kerchner of Argentina over abortion rights, free birth control, and gay marriage.  Yet the at the same time he labled as hypocrites, those priests who refused to baptise children who were not born in wedlock.  He calls intollerant clerics who close the doors of the church to people such as unwed mothers or gays as the "Pharisees of our time".  He is very familiar with the Roman curia and has been an advocate of reforming it.  Otherwise, as far as church teachings he is very socially conservative and theologically orthodox.  It is unsuprising as all the cardinals who participated in his election were appointed by either John Paul II or Benedict XVI who were of similar minds. 

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Ethiopia stretches her hands unto God (Quote from Psalm 68 which served as the Imperial Motto of the Ethiopian Empire)

"God and history shall remember your judgment." (Quote from Emperor Haile Selassie I's speech to the League of Nations to plead for assistance against the Italian Invasion, 1936.)
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Francis I is a first in many ways.  Obviously he is the first Pope named Francis, he is the first non-European Pope, the first Latin American Pope, and the first Jesuit Pope. It's truly a historic election. May God guide Pope Francis I through the coming years.


  • Correct, he is the first Pope named Francis.
  • Incorrect, he isn't the first non-European Pope, that was Pope Peter obviously. Pope Francis is only the first non-European Pope since November 28th, 741, when Pope Gregory III, who was from what is today Syria, died.
  • Correct, he is indeed the first Latino Pope ever.
  • Correct, he is indeed the first ever Jesuit Pope.

You missed,

  • Pope Francis is the first Pope since John Paul I to introduce a new papal regnal name into the roster of papal regnal names, and he is also the first Pope to introduce a truly new papal regnal name into the roster since the election of Pope Lando in July/August of 913 (Pope John Paul I merely combined the names of his two predecessors). That's 11 centuries nearly on the dot!!
  • Pope Francis is the first person of Italian descent elected pope since the death of John Paul I in October 1978.
  • Pope Francis is the first Argentinian pope.
  • And he is the first Pope from the Americas, and indeed from the Western Hemisphere, also the New World.
  • In fact, the new Pope is also the first pope ever from the Southern Hemisphere, meaning that the three-fourths of the Earth not previously represented by popes now finally are.
  • Pope Francis is the third consecutive pope not to be of Italian nationality.
  • Pope Francis is the first ever Pope born in the 1930s.

I predict the new Pope will probably reign for about a decade based on his being a 76-year-old. Which, oddly enough, was approximately the average length of reign of popes in medieval times.

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He's also the first Pope who was previously a retired archbishop having done so last year.  He is the first Pope to have the name Jorge (George) as well I think.

An amusing quote connected to the election of the new Pope.



Joy Behar: "It’s already starting. Donald Trump wants to see the new Pope’s birth certificate."


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Ethiopia stretches her hands unto God (Quote from Psalm 68 which served as the Imperial Motto of the Ethiopian Empire)

"God and history shall remember your judgment." (Quote from Emperor Haile Selassie I's speech to the League of Nations to plead for assistance against the Italian Invasion, 1936.)
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Argentinians are packing their churches to celebrate the election of their countryman as the new Pope.  Meanwhile, President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, whose relationship with the former Archbishop of Buenos Aires can only be regarded as rather on the cool side, issued a terse two line letter of congratulations.  This was in contrast to the longer congratulatory glowing public spoken statement given by the non-Roman Catholic President of the United States.

http://news.yahoo.com/argentines-rush-churches-weep-countryman-elected-pope-210939386--finance.html

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Ethiopia stretches her hands unto God (Quote from Psalm 68 which served as the Imperial Motto of the Ethiopian Empire)

"God and history shall remember your judgment." (Quote from Emperor Haile Selassie I's speech to the League of Nations to plead for assistance against the Italian Invasion, 1936.)
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More about the new pope.  He dislikes the ornate trappings of the church, and values simplicity (yeah not much chance of a revived coronation).  He prefered to travel by bus while cardinal archbishop of Buenos Aires. He accused fellow church leaders of hypocrisy and forgetting that Jesus Christ bathed lepers and ate with prostitutes.


As I have been saying on my Facebook wall, it hasn't even been 24 hours yet, and already people are digging dirt and brainwashing other Catholics that this Pope is like some spawn of the devil. I'm simply tired of all this negativity, and BS. And most of all the BS comes from the grouchy Traddies who are upset because they think they have always been ostracized by everyone else in the Catholic community. I live in the Philippines, and we are Roman Catholics, and we never label ourselves into different factions. We don't say, "I'm a Trad", or "I'm not a Trad". We simply say that we are Roman Catholics and we adhere to the teachings of Christ and the Roman Catholic Church. If Trads are being ostracized, they are doing so themselves because they have this delusion and paranoia that whoever is Pope who sits on St. Peter's Chair is Christ Himself, therefore they expect him to be absolutely perfect. But they are wrong. It's really bad logic to keep on becoming dissatisfied every time a new Pope sits on the Papal Chair. I mean, if everyone will always keep complaining, why do we even have Popes in the first place? Why not convert to another religion and do away with all the stuff you dislike? The past two Popes---people were not even satisfied with them. And now that we have a new one, people are still throwing stones at him. No one here in this forum is even a Cardinal or a Pope, not even close to becoming one, and yet you all think you're better at being Pope than the one who is now elected.

I am for both the Traditional Latin Mass and the Novus Ordo. Both are valid, and I attend both forms of the mass. I don't think this new Pope dislikes the ornate trappings of the Church. He is simple, but since he is the Pope, I doubt he will suddenly make a move to remove all the grandeur decorations in the Vatican. Again, silly paranoia. Also, what is wrong with taking a bus?

Also, people ARE indeed forgetting. The Church itself wouldn't stand if there was no Jesus in it. Why is there a Catholic Church in the first place? Because of Christ. Christ told St. Peter to be the rock, the foundation of His Church. If you want the Catholic Church to stand for all time, you also must return to its source: Jesus Christ. What and who was Jesus Christ? He never even wore grand clothes, nor rode in grand carriages. He was a simple man, garbed in simple clothing. He walked. He even rode on a donkey. He was, in all honesty, simple. If you can't accept simplicity as well as all the grandeur, then perhaps you all should build another Church without Jesus in it.

Give this new Pope a chance. I highly doubt all the accusations and dirt made against him. He still has a long way to go, and I want to know what he does during his time as Pope than listen to all the hatred from people in the internet who already judged him to be an ill-fitting Pope, long before he even begins his job/mission.

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This is floating about on the facebook...
 
ABOUT THE NEW POPE, POPE FRANCIS:

From Archbishop Gregory Venables, former Anglican primate from Argentina: "Many are asking me what Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio (Pope Francis) is really like. He is much more of a Christian, Christ centered and Spirit filled, than a mere churchman. He believes the Bible as it is written. I have been with him on many occasions and he always makes me sit next to him and invariably makes me take part and often do what he as Cardinal should have done. He is consistently humble and wise, outstandingly gifted yet a common man. He is no fool and speaks out very quietly yet clearly when necessary. He called me to have breakfast with him one morning and told me very clearly that the Ordinariate was quite unnecessary and that the church needs us as Anglicans. I consider this to be an inspired appointment not because he is a close and personal friend but because of who he is In Christ. Pray for him."

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Praying that it's Cardinal Burke, and he picks the name Pius XVIII


So you wanted Cardinal Burke to skip the numbers XIII thru XVII? Any reason why?

Anyways, amidst the reactions to Pope Francis, Interim President of Venezuela Nicolas Maduro attributed the late Hugo Chavez's intervention with Jesus as the reason a South American was picked.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/13/world/americas/latin-america-pope-reaction/index.html?hpt=wo_t4

Really impressive for a dead guy who was ineligible to vote, ain't it? All hail Zombie Cardinal Hugo Chavez! ROFLMAO!!!!
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