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My dear friend ... Will you let me call you that? I see your interests and your awareness in the history of my homeland, I see our common views, so I want to call you my friend. Since English is not my native language for me, I will write a few answer points. The theme of the Russian revolution, which we are discussing, is a gigantic theme, and it will require many answers ...

I looked in your profile and saw that you live in the Republic of South Africa. So I guess the book you're talking about is called "The Dispute of Zion: Two Thousand Years of the Jewish Question." Right? It was written by a US journalist, Mr. Douglas Reed, and published in the South African Republic in the 1970s. I read this book, it was republished in Russia in the early 1990s. It was published by the "Memory" Society (monarchical fundamentalists and anti-Semites). We know this book well, but I never thought that my interlocutor would be familiar with its author, Mr. Reed, like you.

Mr. Douglas Reed identified many problems correctly, but many more problems he did not know, or ignored, or did not take into account. I want to say about this. If the blame for the destruction of the Russian Empire is blamed on the Masons and the Jews, then this will be a simplification and a wrong analyst. Everything is much more complicated ...

I begin by saying that in 1917 there were not one, but two revolutions in Russia. The first revolution happened on March 2, 1917, when deputies of the Parliament Guchkov and Shulgin asked the Tsar for abdication. They did not threaten him with reprisals against the family and children, this is not true. Moreover: the deputy of the parliament (Duma) Shulgin himself was a monarchist (!). They wanted to save the Monarchy by personally changing the Tsar. Nicholas II was at that time unpopular, they wanted to replace Tsar Nikolai with Duke Michael, in order to save the monarchical order. But Duke Michael, the younger brother of Tsar Nicholas, also repudiated the benefit of the Constituent Assembly, "... which must decide whether Russia will be a Monarchy or a republic."

Yes, in March 1917, the great role of British and French Freemasons, but not only. Russian oligarchs, Russian aristocrats, and even members of the Imperial House acted all together against the Tsar. So, the Tsar's native uncle, Duke Nikolai Nikolaevich, wrote to the Tsar in a letter: "I kneel before you, and ask you to renounce the Throne."

When our Emperor Nicholas renounced the Throne, the Monarchy fell, and the Provisional Government, which was headed by Alexander Kerensky, a Socialist and a Mason, took power. The worst thing was that none of the tsarist generals, when he received by telegraph the text of the Tsar's abdication, did not defend him: all the generals "celebrated the republic." Only two generals disobeyed: Khan Nakhichevan from the North Caucasus and Sultan Girey-Klych from the Crimea. They answered the King: "We do not recognize the Republic, we do not recognize renunciation, if the Tsar orders, we will lead our troops to the capital and kill all the enemies of the Tsar!" But Nicholas II did not want to drown the revolution in the blood ...

The younger generals of Germanic origin, Count Keller, Baron Ungern-Sternberg, others spoke for the Tsar. Then Baron Ungern-Sternberg sadly said: "In Russia, only real Muslims from the Caucasus Mountains were real Russians that day, but we Germans from the Baltics ... ".


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Britain and France were interested in destroying the monarchy in Russia, it's true. There were many reasons for this. The Russian Empire had a very active industrial development, and turned into a competitor in Europe and the world. In the Russian Empire there were the lowest taxes for production. Here were the cheapest workers. Therefore, companies such as Siemens (telephones), Underwood (typewriters and office equipment), Singer (sewing machines and equipment for light industry) began to transfer their production to Russia. In the early twentieth century typewriters and telephones were the same as today is a computer; Russia became the world supplier of office equipment.

In addition, the Russian Empire built a railway from Vladivostok to Europe throughout its territory. It was a blow to the UK economy. Previously, Great Britain controlled all the sea trade with the Far East, controlled the Singapore Strait, the Suez Canal, Gibraltar, Cape Town. After the construction of the Russian railway "Transsib" all goods from China, Japan, Korea, French Indochina, Borneo could be delivered to Europe by land. It was cheaper and safer. The British merchant fleet was losing money, British insurance companies were losing money, Britain was losing money ...

In addition, after the WWI, the Russian Empire, under the terms of the treaty with the allies, should receive for itself the "Turkish trophy" - Constantinople (Istanbul), the Marmara Sea, the Bosporus and the Dardanelles. Thus, the Russian Empire emerged into the Mediterranean, and became a rival to the British Empire. "Lady of the Seas" did not want to admit this.

For Britain it was necessary to make Russia, on the one hand, continue the war against Austria and Germany on the eastern front, and on the other hand, it was very weak after the victory over the Central Powers, and could not make claims on the "Turkish trophy". Britain was beneficial that after the end of WWI Russia was too weak, the economy was destroyed: it allowed to eliminate the competitor.

For this purpose, the Revolution was organized on March 2, 1917. The Provisional Government of Alexander Kerensky continued to fight with Germany, and were pro-English. But the Russian front began to fall apart. On the one hand, the soldiers did not understand the republic and the provisional government; They swore allegiance to the Tsar and fought "For God, the Tsar and the Fatherland!". When the Tsar died, the soldiers did not understand who they were fighting for now, and began to desert. On the other hand, the Bolsheviks were agitators in the troops, who received money from Germany: they agitated the soldiers not to fight. The front collapsed.

The revolution of March 2, 1917 was in the interests of Great Britain and France. Six months later, on October 25, 1917, there was a second revolution, which the Bolsheviks were doing. This revolution was in the interests of Germany. The Bolsheviks overthrew the Provisional Government of Kerensky, and immediately concluded a separate peace with Germany in the city of Brest. This peace treaty is called as the "Shameful World." Russia, which fought against Germany since 1914, in 1917 became an ally of Germany. Thus, Russia did not end up as a victorious power, but as a losing power. This is a great tragedy.


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But all this is only foreign policy and the external side of the issue. The most terrible truth is that Russia could not avoid a revolution. The reason was this: the Russian economy developed very strongly, the children and grandchildren of the former peasants became big millionaires ... but the political life remained very conservative. We needed freedoms within the framework of a parliamentary monarchy, but Emperor Nicholas did not dare to give such freedoms. Finally, in 1905, after a very large strike and attempted revolution, Emperor Nicholas signed the Manifesto of October 17, in which he established the Parliament (the State Duma). But it was one step late ...

Emperor Nicholas II and his government found themselves in a situation where both paths led to a political crisis. The public demanded democratization, the bourgeoisie demanded democratization, the intelligentsia demanded democratization. If you do not do democratization, then the public is indignant, cares begin; if to do democratization, then the public, the intelligentsia and the bourgeoisie demand freedom even more ... How to act?

There were other reasons. The Polish Kingdom wanted to have independence, the Duchy of Finland wanted to have independence. Ukraine wanted to have internal autonomy. Jews wanted equality. Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia wanted autonomy, they opposed russification. All these peoples had their own parties: they were nationalist parties with the Social-Democratic program.

With Jews it turned out very ugly. There were such obsolete laws that did not give Jews equality. Firstly, Jews could not live freely in the territory of the entire Russian Empire - only in the Kingdom of Poland, in Lithuania and in Ukraine. This was called the Pale of Settlement. Secondly, Jews could not visit St. Petersburg and Moscow. Jews were not admitted to universities, they were not accepted for public service. To move to the entire territory of the Empire, Jews must either be very rich, or abandon Judaism and become Christians. These archaic laws, of course, evoked dislike among Jews: it turned out that the state itself made Jews out of enemies. Surprisingly, after this, that a lot of Jews after that fought in the Red Army and supported the Bolsheviks? ... Emperor Nicholas II several times wanted to abolish these archaic laws, but he was not allowed to do so by Russian millionaires who did not want Jews as competitors. Ironically, they were precisely those Russian millionaires who then made and supported the first revolution in March 1917 - the Ryabushinsky, Morozoff, Tereshchenko, others ... Finally, in 1915 Emperor Nicholas II abolished archaic laws against the Jews, but it was too late : most Jews treated the imperial empire very badly.

For fairness I will say that during the Civil War of 1918-1921 many Jews fought against the Bolsheviks in the White Army. In 1920-40 years in Paris there was even the "Jewish Monarchist Committee", in which there were Jewish emigres from Russia (Hitler destroyed them). Even now in Russia there are some Jewish rabbis who sympathize with the monarchy and Emperor Nicholas II ... But I will not be distracted.


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There is another sad reason for the revolution of 1917: it is corruption. You mentioned the secret political police "Okhranka" (correct name: "Security Department"). Unfortunately, this royal secret police did more harm than good. In this secret police there were a lot of officers, and each of them dreamed of receiving a high rank, an order and other awards. I will say this: all the officers of the Security Department simply lacked the number of revolutionaries and terrorists. And so some officers of the Security Department began through their agents to create revolutionary terrorist organizations in order to win them. This is very scary: in order to get a new high rank, the secret police officers created revolutionary groups!

The loudest story happened in 1911 in Kiev: revolutionary Dmitry Bogroff killed in the theater of the Prime Minister of the Russian Empire Count Peter Stolypin. This Dmitry Bogroff was both an informer of the secret police and a member of a secret revolutionary organization ... The theater in which the murder was kept was guarded, but the secret police officers themselves brought in this terrorist Bogoroff, and even weapons! Everything - for the sake of a career, for the sake of a high office! The murder of the Prime Minister and the author of the agrarian reform! This is scary...

I have already told you that no general in March 1917 wanted to protect Emperor Nicholas. Only Khan Nakhichevan, Sultan Girey, Earl Keller, Baron Ungern ... All the others thought not about the oath, but about personal gain. Already after the revolution, in 1918, the Emperor, arrested by the Bolsheviks, wrote in his notebook sad words: "Around betrayal, and cowardice, and deception."

Even the church bishops after the revolution in March 1917 ran to swear allegiance to the Provisional Government. They served the prayer: "Divine Provisional Government! ... At last the Church gets freedom! ..." What it ended for the Church, you know.

It is also necessary to say that ordinary people - in the first turn, peasants - just cried when they learned about the abdication of the Tsar. They first cried, and then ran to rob a nobleman landowner ... In the estate of the poet Alexander Blok, these peasants threw out a piano from the window ... The writer Ivan Bunin was burnt down by the estate and wanted to throw it into the fire ... When the White Army fought against the Bolsheviks , the peasants refused to give food and fodder for the horses ... How should this be treated? ...

All in Russia betrayed their Tsar. If people here were honest, then no Masons, no foreign intelligence would ever be able to make a revolution. But the whole population of Russia thought: "It does not concern me, I'll sit quietly at home." And as a result, the Bolsheviks defeated, and organized Hell for the whole of Russia.

So who is to blame? Masons? Great Britain, France? Germany? ... America? ... Rothschilds? ... I'm sure: the Russians themselves are most guilty: the aristocracy, the clergy, the bourgeoisie, the army, the peasants - everything! If the body is healthy, then it is not afraid of viruses; But if the body is sick, even a cold will kill it.


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I really hope that I did not tire you, my dear friend. If my answer turned out to be very big, then please forgive me. But I hope that it will be interesting for you. I remain with respect and kindest wishes for you.


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