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Ethiomonarchist

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There have been some interesting developments at the Vatican.

Pope Francis is reportedly demoting the influential conservative Raymon Cardinal Burke from being head of the Apostolic Signatura (the Vatican equivalent of a Supreme Court) to being head of the Soveriegn Military Order of Malta.

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/566707/20140918/pope-francis-controversy-raymon-burke.org

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/09/17/Pope-Plans-on-Exiling-Conservative-Catholic-Hero-Cardinal-Burke

Five influential conservative cardinals, including Cardinal Burke, have issued a challenge of sorts to the Pope over his increasingly relaxed stand towards non-traditional and divorced Catholic couples.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/18/catholic-bishops-divorce_n_5837916.html

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Negotiations between the Vatican and the traditionalist Society of St. Pius X are resuming.

http://news.yahoo.com/vatican-eyes-gradual-talks-breakaway-group-125452649.html

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The rumor I have heard about Cardinal Burke is that they are expecting the Pope to combine Vatican departments to make one giant justice council making him the odd man out. However I think people underestimate his new position in the SMOM as it is one of the most important catholic organizations and he can influence it. Also good to see SSPX talks resume I was expecting the anti-Francis arguments to block any negotiations in this pontificate.
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Pope Francis has payed tribute to Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI at a rare appearance by Benedict at a Papal ceremony honoring the elderly.

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-hails-benedict-other-elderly-vatican-fest-095653760.html;_ylt=AwrBJSB2_SpUWRIAXcjQtDMD

http://news.yahoo.com/two-popes-attend-gathering-wise-wrinkled-vatican-113937819.html;_ylt=AwrBJSB2_SpUWRIAYcjQtDMD

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The upcoming Synod On the Family is shaping up to be an epic confrontation between the liberal and conservative factions of the Roman Catholic Church.  Battle lines have been drawn it would seem.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/02/pope-francis-synod-family-_n_5919198.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

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I have to confess that my sympathy with the sort of conservatives who didn't care that John Paul II was utterly tone-deaf on music and liturgy but now are horrified that their beloved sexual morality might not be safe either is somewhat limited.

(Note that I do not include the liturgically impeccable Cardinal Burke in that category.)
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The Synod on the family is already proving to be quite eventful.

Pope Francis has apparently ditched Latin in favor of Italian as the working language of the Synod

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-ditches-latin-official-language-vatican-synod-171337016.html;_ylt=AwrBJR_ZUzVUfCgASUbQtDMD


There has been a proposal to drop the phrase "living in sin" to refer to unmarried co-habitating couples.

http://news.yahoo.com/catholic-church-scrap-phrase-living-sin-cardinal-191231402.html#

And the prelates have received a talk from an Australian couple about the joys of marital sex

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/pope-prelates-crash-sex-synod-26021270

So far not encouraging for traditionalists, but quite pleasing to reformers.

In other news, Pope Francis has accepted the resignation of a British bishop who is said to have had a long standing affair with a married woman.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/pope-accepts-resignation-british-bishop-report-affair-122912675.html#0f4Lkad


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Suggestions have been put out at the synod that Catholics should not aim at being "perfect catholics" but "the best that they can be". 

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/08/in-family-debate-pope-and-bishops-emphasizing-being-best-possible-catholic-not/

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Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmiero has proposed "streamlining" the process of obtaining annulments.  He wants local bishops to decide more of them, and for the Vatican tribunal's reviewing appeals to be reduced to panels of one to three judges.

Cardinal Gerhard Mueller, in charge of the Vatican doctrine office, has argued that all speeches given at the synod should be made public.

http://news.yahoo.com/top-vatican-cardinal-wants-family-speeches-public-113848531.html

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Suggestions have been put out at the synod that Catholics should not aim at being "perfect catholics" but "the best that they can be". 

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/08/in-family-debate-pope-and-bishops-emphasizing-being-best-possible-catholic-not/


Just another attempt by the current Pontiff and his neo-protestant minions to dilute the Faith!

The Gospel according to St Matthew, 5:48:

Estote ergo vos perfecti sicut et Pater vester caelestis perfectus est. Vulgate

Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect. Douai-Rheims




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God help us all. I am now seeing some pretty disturbing reports tonight.

VATICAN CITY — An important meeting of bishops at the Vatican used remarkably conciliatory language Monday toward gay and divorced Catholics, signaling a possible easing of the church’s rigid attitudes on homosexuality and the sanctity of marriage.

The gathering of bishops from around the world called on pastors to recognize, among other things, the “positive aspects of civil unions and cohabitation.”


http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/2014/10/13/the-vatican-changing-its-views-toward-gay-divorced-catholics/4Hnbk1jq0eipbqxEcfAkEL/story.html

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So, am I the only one here not against Gay rights ? Just wondering.
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No, you're not. There's me and KYM and a few others who are supportive. I actually am gay, but I like to think I would be supportive in any case. Although I didn't like the look of Pope Francis one bit to begin with he has been nothing but an extremely pleasant surprise, and I am very encouraged by this latest news (which I was already aware of).
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No, you're not. There's me and KYM and a few others who are supportive. I actually am gay, but I like to think I would be supportive in any case. Although I didn't like the look of Pope Francis one bit to begin with he has been nothing but an extremely pleasant surprise, and I am very encouraged by this latest news (which I was already aware of).


Well you have to admitt he looks less mummified then Benedict.
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I didn't mean physical looks. Actually while I knew a bit about the then Cardinal Ratzinger it wasn't a great deal, and when he was elected I thought he seemed a beautiful old man. I already knew he had formidable intellect and learning, admirable qualities, so I was quite keen on him to begin with. However I grew to detest him because of his policies, and especially his anti-gay crusade. Pope Francis I thought at the beginning was going to be a nightmare, but he has been quite the opposite. I'm not even going to say 'so far', because I think he has been in office long enough for his measure to be apparent. I wish he had been elected instead of Benedict XVI, which it seems nearly happened, the Church would be very different today and a lot better for it.
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