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Kaiser109

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   I am one to prefer traditional monarchy, but I know that this not the case for everyone. 
 
   I would like to see your opinion and why you prefer that form more. Find the pros and cons of it.  


The problem with constitutional monarchy's is there to weak they can lose what little power they have by a bunch of communists but absolute monarchy's own the military and the police what are a bunch of communists goanna do then nothing. they wouldn't want to what I think is that the royal family lets say the British royal family should control the country seeing the crown established the country that's just how I see it.
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The problem with constitutional monarchy's is there to weak they can lose what little power they have by a bunch of communists but absolute monarchy's own the military and the police what are a bunch of communists goanna do then nothing. they wouldn't want to what I think is that the royal family lets say the British royal family should control the country seeing the crown established the country that's just how I see it.

The immediate problem I see with your position that constitutional monarchies can lose their power to communists more easily than absolute monarchies is that the United Kingdom, Denmark and Japan (as examples) are all still monarchies with no substantial communist movements or any real threat of their monarchs being toppled. Meanwhile, "owning the military and the police" did not seem to protect Nicholas II of Russia or Haile Selassie of Ethiopia from losing their power to communists. 

I would like to see the Crown's executive powers fully restored, but I still believe in a balance of constitutional powers and would not support absolute monarchy in the UK. Since the end of the Medieval Period, England and later Britain's most successful monarchs were those who respected constitutional precedent and worked with Parliament, without allowing themselves to be reduced to the status of puppets. 

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I agree with VivatReginaScottorum, while a monarch should have real executive powers to put a brake on the politicians the public still needs representation in a parliament or other general assembly.
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The immediate problem I see with your position that constitutional monarchies can lose their power to communists more easily than absolute monarchies is that the United Kingdom, Denmark and Japan (as examples) are all still monarchies with no substantial communist movements or any real threat of their monarchs being toppled. Meanwhile, "owning the military and the police" did not seem to protect Nicholas II of Russia or Haile Selassie of Ethiopia from losing their power to communists. 

I would like to see the Crown's executive powers fully restored, but I still believe in a balance of constitutional powers and would not support absolute monarchy in the UK. Since the end of the Medieval Period, England and later Britain's most successful monarchs were those who respected constitutional precedent and worked with Parliament, without allowing themselves to be reduced to the status of puppets. 
but you see you left out one big thing about the Russian king losing to the rebels is because he just fhinshed a war with the Germans known as ww1 were Russia got it ass handed to them so when he returned he had no army to protect his power and second there was a man called Rasputin he managed to take over the government and cause chaos so the people hated the government and the crown so he had no army and half the country hated him that's why he lost
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but you see you left out one big thing about the Russian king losing to the rebels is because he just fhinshed a war with the Germans known as ww1 were Russia got it ass handed to them so when he returned he had no army to protect his power and second there was a man called Rasputin he managed to take over the government and cause chaos so the people hated the government and the crown so he had no army and half the country hated him that's why he lost


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Not exactly Jamesian in its construction, though. Nicholas II had plenty of army left, but it had had enough of him and was no longer loyal. To say that Rasputin took over the government is a considerable overstatement. There is an impression of Russia's last reigning Emperor that he was easily influenced. He was actually mulishly stubborn, but gave the impression of being easily swayed because he disliked confrontation so tended to agree to almost any suggestion. Then do whatever he was going to do in the first place, leaving people feeling let down and lied to, which indeed they had been. Rasputin he kept around because of his calming influence on the Empress, who was prone to hysterical fits. While the so-called starets did regularly offer policy advice, it was as regularly ignored. Which was a pity, because it was usually quite commonsensical, and superior to Nicholas's own judgement.
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I too agree with Viva. I would love to the British monarchy to have important executive powers, but not to be absolute. I don't know this would be possible in today's partisan-party politics, however. I think it would risk sullying the monarch with such partisanship. I also fear the hold of liberal democracy is becoming weaker and weaker, and fear what would be likely to replace it would be far worse than it. Any change of governmental system would be fraught with danger, even if the goal is a good one. Indeed, I have come to think more and more the best position for a traditional conservative to defend for the time-being is an intelligent, humanist classical liberalism (not neoliberalism), like that of Wilhelm Ropke.
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I too agree with Viva. I would love to the British monarchy to have important executive powers, but not to be absolute. I don't know this would be possible in today's partisan-party politics, however. I think it would risk sullying the monarch with such partisanship. I also fear the hold of liberal democracy is becoming weaker and weaker, and fear what would be likely to replace it would be far worse than it. Any change of governmental system would be fraught with danger, even if the goal is a good one. Indeed, I have come to think more and more the best position for a traditional conservative to defend for the time-being is an intelligent, humanist classical liberalism (not neoliberalism), like that of Wilhelm Ropke.


I agree with most of what you say besides the constitutional monarchy. the democracy reign is going to end one day or another for the latest election for Britain the people had two main choices a communist or a witch this is democracy I am British so I am sad to see Britain fall to these idiots.

and as you said that you'd love to see the monarchy restored to have more power to help the united kingdom I agree that Britain is in danger so for that im on your side but this is my opinion I'll always see the crown of Britain as the rightful ruler of the great British empire but besides that I agree with your side.
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