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KYMonarchist

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8551868.stm

I'm just absolutely flabbergasted that anybody would bully an Imperial princess, and a descendant of the Japanese sun goddess Amaterasu herself!What's wrong with those people, have they no shame or respect?

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Is Princess Toshi another name for Princess Aiko?  I have only seen her refered to as Princes Aiko.

Bullies are sadly enough a fixture of every culture it seems.  When children socialize with each other I guess it's inevitable that things like this will happen.  I hope that this doesn't mean that the Princess will be isolated from her peers.  They should just punish the kids in question and let them go on as kids will do.  I don't think it was a good idea to publicize something like this in the press.

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Tolgron

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It's a shame that even a member of a Royal Family isn't really safe from the actions of children with no sense or respect towards others. I hope HIH recovers swiftly and continues her education as normal -- I agree with Ethiomonarchist's sentiments; Princess Aiko shouldn't be isolated from other children her age. Especially not because of some rowdy youths who should know better.

Neville

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Princess Aiko's full title is Toshi-no-miya Aiko NaishinnĊ.  NaishinnĊ is an Imperial Princess, daughter or granddaughter of an Emperor.  Toshi-no-miya is a special childhood title that is sometimes translated as "Princess Toshi", though I don't know if that is really the best translation.  The Crown Prince (Naruhito) and Prince Akishino (Fumihito) were often called Prince Hiro and Prince Aya, their childhood titles, in the media, but this gradually faded away once they received their adult titles. 

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Wow! I'm absolutely shock to hear this. They should isolate the bullies, not isolate her from everyone there. A suspension should do it. I mean it's not just because these idiots bullied Her Majesty, overall bullying is bad and bullies should be punished, regardless of who they did it to.

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these idiots bullied Her Majesty


Sorry for being a nit-picker, but the Princess is correctly referred to as "Her Imperial Highness" not "Her Majesty".  Only Emperors and Kings along with their consorts have the dignity of "Majesty".


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Wow, Ethio, I had not even seen that...quite the eyes you have.




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NapoleonBonaparte

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I knew that wasn't right. I saw the HIH from Tolgron's post and I had a guess but I might be wrong. Thanks Ethio ^^

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Her Imperial Highness  has returned to school.

http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/201003103066/princess-aiko/back-to-school/bullying/1/

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Peter

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Getting titles right can be slightly tricky. Or even a lot tricky. However, "Majesty" is an easy one. Not a King, Queen, Emperor or Empress? Can't be a "Majesty" then. Most likely a person with a royal title who is not one of these is going to be a "Highness" of some description. Ah, but which one? Imperial Highness, Imperial and Royal Highness, Royal Highness, Grand Ducal Highness, Highness and Serene Highness are all distinct possibilities, and sometimes more than one is used within the same dynasty, varying with the degree of closeness to the main ruling line. A recognised Russian dynast for example could be an Imperial Highness, Highness or Serene Highness, depending; an Italian a Royal or Serene Highness. Or to use a currently reigning dynasty for an example, in Denmark either a Royal Highness or a Highness.

Note that Highness all by itself is a grade all by itself. It is a big faux pas to address someone entitled to a different grade of Highness than the unadorned by Highness alone, especially if you are demoting them. But at least one does not have to worry about Illustrious Highness and Princely Grace, as these were not used by actual ruling lines and are therefore unlikely to be encountered in royal families, though persons with those distinctions would usually still be considered of equal birth.

Funnily enough as regards HIH Princess Toshi, of whose return to school I am glad to learn, if you were speaking of or to her in Japanese you would simply call her "Denka", meaning "Highness". It is only in translation that the "Imperial" gets applied. Similarly the Emperor is "Tenno Heika", "His Majesty the Emperor", and only acquires the "Imperial" bit in translation, in Japanese the distinction does not exist.

There are similar complications with other languages. One might address the Prince of Liechtenstein as "Your Serene Highness", and this is the conventional English version. It is not in fact what the German means, though, that is more like "Your Serenity", or even more exactly "Your Radiance". On the other hand one would likewise so address the Prince of Monaco, and there would be translating the French exactly.

Anyway, NB, while that might all seem rather complicated and confusing, if you steer clear of referring to any but the very limited group of people I described first as His or Her Majesty you'll be making a start at getting it right.
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